Orioles Notes: Bullpen, Catcher, Mancini – MLB Trade Rumors

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By | December 27, 2021 at 10:44am CDT
As expected, it has been another fairly quiet offseason in Baltimore to this point. The Orioles have made a pair of low-cost big league deals, signing infielder Rougned Odor for the league minimum salary and agreeing to terms on a $7MM guarantee with starter Jordan Lyles. (The Lyles deal was agreed to in the waning hours before the lockout and wasn’t made official prior to the transactions freeze, but it’s expected to be finalized whenever the lockout ends).
The O’s are entering year four of what has been a massive rebuild. The big league roster is still a ways worse than the rest of those in the loaded American League East, and it never seemed likely Baltimore would make a major splash this winter. That said, there’s plenty of room for general manager Mike Elias and his staff to continue to make smaller additions in the Odor/Lyles mold — both to make the team more respectable and perhaps stumble upon a midseason trade chip if things break well.
Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com writes that Baltimore is likely to add at least one reliever to the big league club whenever transactions are again permitted. That could take the form of a free agent signee or the selection of a bullpen arm in the big league portion of the Rule 5 draft, which is expected to take place after the lockout.
There’s not a ton of sense for the rebuilding Orioles in signing a big-name closer like Kenley Jansen, yet the free agent market still offers plenty of lower-cost middle relief or reclamation candidates who may be of interest. It’s fairly common to see teams also take fliers on relievers in the Rule 5 draft. Baltimore added two bullpen arms — Mac Sceroler and Tyler Wells — in last year’s Rule 5. Sceroler didn’t stick with the O’s, but Wells looks likely to have a spot in the 2022 ’pen after tossing 57 innings of 4.11 ERA ball with a strong 29% strikeout rate as a rookie.
In addition to the search for bullpen help, Kubatko suggests the O’s are likely to continue to pursue catching depth. The O’s don’t have a single backstop on their 40-man roster. Top prospect Adley Rutschman figures to be in the majors relatively early next season, and he’d no doubt get the lion’s share of playing time whenever the organization brings him up. Yet the O’s will at least need somebody to back up Rutschman, and it’s possible they start their top farmhand in Triple-A (perhaps past the threshold for the 23-year-old to accrue a full year of MLB service).
If Rutschman returns to the Orioles’ top affiliate in Norfolk to open the season, they’ll need to select two other backstops to the big league roster. They’ve already signed Jacob Nottingham and Anthony Bemboom to minor league deals, and Kubatko writes that they’re hoping to add another backstop to the high levels of the system, either via minors pact or the Rule 5. Players who didn’t finish the season on a 40-man roster or MLB injured list are permitted to sign non-roster deals during the lockout, so it’s possible the Orioles bolster their catching depth even prior to the signing of a new CBA.
Even as they add around the margins, the Orioles seem open to offers on virtually anyone on the roster. Reports from earlier in the offseason indicated the O’s were willing to take calls on both star center fielder Cedric Mullins and top starter John Means, and Kubatko writes there’s still a “slim possibility” they move first baseman/DH Trey Mancini. Rich Dubroff of Baltimore Baseball wrote last week that there’s not yet been any progress on a potential extension for Mancini, who’s entering his final year of arbitration control.
It’s an inopportune time for the Orioles to make a deal involving Mancini, though. The 29-year-old (30 in March) missed all of 2020 battling colon cancer. His return to the field this past season was heartwarming, and his advancement to the final round of the Home Run Derby made for one of the sport’s best stories. Trading Mancini would be a tough blow to a significant portion of the organization and fanbase.
He’s also simply a difficult player for rival clubs to value. Mancini played in 147 games and tallied 616 plate appearances, impressive durability considering what’d he had to endure the year prior. His .255/.326/.432 slash line was a rather significant step back from 2019’s .291/.364/.535 mark though. It’s certainly understandable his production might suffer in the wake of a battle with cancer, and Mancini’s shown himself capable of putting up far better numbers in the past. It’s arguable the O’s may be better suited holding onto him into 2022 in the hope that he bounces back to peak form over the first few months. That’d allow the front office more time to determine whether to pursue a long-term deal or attempt to move Mancini in advance of next summer’s trade deadline.
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Rsox
12 hours ago
Sign Kurt Suzuki and let him be the primary Catcher til Rutschman is ready and then keep him to mentor Adley. Bemboom can serve as the backup til then.
mstrchef13
11 hours ago
Suzuki, Ramos, Chirinos, Romine, they are all pretty interchangeable. Maybe trade one of the plethora of relievers we have to get a backup C who is a little bit better and isn’t in their late 30s.
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Or sign them all. Suzuki, Ramos, Chirinos, Romine, Chance the Sisco, a random Molina, Steve Swisher, that would be a pretty awesome Rockette style kickline you could trot out there
jbigz12
18 mins ago
Not sure the orioles have a plethora of relievers with trade value…… I count maybe 3 that could bring back a decent backup catcher.
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Bemboom is a great name for a meddling reliever who hangs too many pitches over the fat of the plate. Where 6 to 2 deficits balloon to 10 to 2. Bemboom
schwender
12 hours ago
Having to write this article was undoubtedly a fantasy football league “loser prize”. Bless your heart.
Oneofthesedays
9 hours ago
First round playoffs and projected to win by 20, my opponent had the Cowboys defense, Prescott and Schultz last night and walked all over me
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Fifth place in the Glengarry Glen Ross sales sweepstakes- writing this article and risk enduring the mighty rage of the great masses from Dundalk to Hagerstown, Reisterstown to Rising Sun
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
11 hours ago
It’s an inopportune time for the Orioles to make a deal involving Mancini
Not really and if he goes to a contending team
RedFraggle
9 hours ago
It is in that he’s a fan favorite and has minimal value.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
9 hours ago
Oh, I recognize this name
I didn’t know you commented here.
cryptonerd
11 hours ago
MLB’s juiced balls in 2019 really throws off statistical comparisons.
Fans never got as upset at MLB teams as they did at the steroid era.
The media did a great job of not blaming teams for supplying players with steroids. Clubhouse attendants and players took most of the blame on that. The juiced ball should be a bigger scandal than steroids.
abgb123
11 hours ago
You think a season of a juiced balls’ is more a scandal than a generation of talent distorting the record books and creating this controversy of HoF voting and pretty much putting a lot of what we witnessed for 20 years into question?
dpsmith22
11 hours ago
Obviously he thinks players don’t make mistakes. I guess players are underpaid too Crypto?
abgb123
10 hours ago
I’m not assigning blame either, I’m very pro player, I’m also not anti-steroids but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t/isn’t a massive scandal that we are still feeling the repercussions of years later.
cryptonerd
6 hours ago
Steroids effected an era but MLB continues to change the ball as they see fit. That’s why I think it’s a bigger deal, because it’s still ongoing.
cryptonerd
6 hours ago
@dpsmith
I think the free market should decide what players are worth. I don’t care how much they get paid.
abgb123
3 hours ago
It isn’t even close to the same thing, in fact I don’t see how changing the ball is a scandal, it might have been done haphazardly but it doesn’t seem scandalous.
cryptonerd
6 hours ago
It’s not just one season that MLB has changed the ball. 2019 is just the most noticeable outlier in recent history.
Most baseball players are still on PED’s anyways.
They just have an adderall prescription that makes it legal.
jim stem
11 hours ago
Mancini definitely seemed to run out of gas the last 2 months or so. But his numbers seemed to be right in line with his pre-cancer self up to the All Star break.
Orioles fans would probably hate seeing Mancini go because honestly, they really haven’t had much to feel good about in recent years. But from a business standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world to move him.
I’ve thought for awhile that the Mets and Orioles match up rather nicely. Depending upon who the Mets would truly consider trading, Means and Mancini would fit rather nicely in the Mets schematic.
Orioles need cheap, younger talent if they are going to rebuild (build?) again. I think Dom Smith and JD Davis would flourish with every day at bats in that Baltimore ballpark.
If Mullins is honestly available, Mets should go strong after a package of Mullens, Means and Mancini. Mullens pushes Marte to left field. Canha, Marte and Nimmo basically shift themselves naturally around pitching for routine days off. Mancini and Alonso rotate through dh/1b resting each other throughout the season. Escobar 3b and McNeil 2b (if he’s not traded) fill out the infield. Cano is the dh against righties until he tests positive again.
Smith 1b and Davis dh go right into the every day lineup for the Orioles. Mets can offer 3b AAA prospect Vientos who can start immediately at 3b for Baltimore. If we can get Mullens, send Nimmo or the much cheaper Khalil Lee in return. That leaves Means for a young AA Mets prospect or maybe even David Peterson going the way.
Mullens cf
Marte lf
Alonso 1b
Escobar 3b
Mancini rf
Lindor ss
McNeil 2b
Canó dh
McCann c
Guillorme – 2b/ss/3b
Lee or Nimmo – of
Nido c
Baty – eventual starter at 3b, pushing Escobar into every day starter/utility role.
RobM
11 hours ago
Umm, your trade package isn’t even vaguely close to landing Mullins, Mancini and Means. Mullins just by himself would require a very extensive package. Nimmo’s a free agent after 2022, so his value to the O’s would be negligible.
jim stem
9 hours ago
True on Nimmo. That’s why I felt Khalil Lee and Vientos are the mlb minimum wage players starting for the Orioles. As far as pitching going to Baltimore, David Peterson or a AA pitching prospects like JT Ginn is fair for Means. Again, all this is assuming Baltimore wants to contend. I don’t see them contending WITHOUT Mullins and Means. That being said, Vientos, Lee or Nimmo, AA pitcher or MLB experienced Peterson with every day 1b Smith and every day dh Davis? Honestly, that’s 4 every day cheap players (of, 1b, 3b and dh) and two pitchers. Nimmo can easily be flipped by the Orioles during the season to a contender.
Bottom line is that the Orioles aren’t contending in that division any time soon, not with signings like Lyle for 7mil/yr to pitch.
Means needs to bring one true cheap mlb #3 SP at least, or one #4 or 5 SP and a true top 35 sp prospect to in return. Means is #3 or #4 on a contender. Orioles need at least that in return.
Mullins needs to bring 2 mlb ready players and maybe a real prospect.
Mancini needs to bring a hitting prospect and a pitching prospect.
Mets have all the above to offer. Ronnie Mauricio could be involved, but I really think they move him around the infield this year with the thought of turning him into the next McNeil. McNeil could go to the Orioles instead of an OF. If he regains any kind of hitting prowess, Orioles flip him for two more prospects during the season. That’s quite the haul for Means and Mancini considering both are gone as soon they are FA eligible and Mullins could very well be a one hit wonder. Why else on earth would they consider trading him instead building around him?
jim stem
8 hours ago
@Rob
Let’s talk! Lol
You really think Mullens would require a huge return? Yes, he had a monster season – out of nowhere!
His 2021 numbers (age 26 season) are so far above his career numbers at any level, there’s just no way he repeats that kind of year. He will get pitched around in that lineup and pitching coaches will figure out how to get him out – again. I fully expect his numbers to drop back to career averages and .250/15/60/20. That’s hardly earth shattering for a last place team. Maybe that’s why they are willing to listen on offers? But other teams have to know he will slide back as well.
I think the Phils could offer Bohm, Vierling and two A level pitchers (because they have nothing above that) in June and possibly get Mullens.
Means, while a very effective pitcher when healthy, is entering his age 29 season and has eclipsed 150 innings ONCE. His trade value as a soft tossing lefty isn’t as high as you think, especially as he gets closer to free agency and 30 years old. Teams will wait for him to hit FA or trade two AA prospects for him during the season. Very nice #4 or 5 on a contender, but wasted as a #1 on the Orioles.
Mancini is a great story and you can’t help rooting for him, but he’ll soon be 31 and a free agent. What do you honestly think a contender is going to offer for him before he walks for nothing? Whatever teams lose out on Bryant, Rizzo and Freeman will be calling the Orioles for him. Again, maybe two AA prospects in late April?
Anyway, Orioles, if they market Mullins, Means and Mancini properly at the right time, could get some major league now pieces back. If they miss that window, they’ll get 5 suspects who may or may not help them three years from now.
abgb123
6 hours ago
So simple question, if these guys are going to slip back to previous norms and turn into a couple pumpkins why would a team like the Mets (that fancy themselves contenders) want any part of the 3?
RobM
2 hours ago
@jim stem, yes, Mullins would require a huge return. He is a late arriver, but he is still a highly athletic CFer in his mid-20s who is coming off a big year and who has four seasons of cost-controlled years in front of him. There is a great shortage of quality CFers in the game. There would be a bidding war if the Orioles truly planned to trade him and the teams bidding on him would have more prospect capital to deal, unless the Mets plan to basically most of their top prospects. We both know that’s what they don’t want to do.
His breakout season is tied to some very specific changes, especially ditching batting RH’d as a switch hitter In 2020, he hit .305/.348/.448 against RH’d pitching batting left handed, but only .171/.216/.286 against LH’d pitching batting right handed. In 2021, he only batted LH’d, driving his breakout. The underlying peripherals back up the breakout. Even with some regression, he’d still be a 4 WAR player. With a dearth of quality CFers in the game, his age, his years of control, and his low cost, he’d be worth more than any position player on the Mets, so what could the Mets trade that the O’s would find of value. It has to be the Mets top prospects, and the Mets top prospect is actually an A-ball catcher. The O’s already happen to have a catcher who is the #1 prospect in the entire game, so you’re probably looking at moving Baty, Mauricio and maybe one of Allan or Ginn. Lee is an ok prospect, but he’s a backend top ten for the Mets in a not great system. To get Mullins, the O’s will need to get back MLB-ready players who they can be sure will succeed. That’s not Lee.
Now add in Means, a 4 WAR pitcher with three years of control, and you’ll begin to see the Mets don’t have the prospects to land both these guys. The Orioles can package both, or make two separate deals for both.
Fans always want to put together a dog’s breakfast of fringy names and expect players like Mullins and Means in return. It doesn’t work that way.
Mancini is the most obtainable. Maybe the O’s would move Mancini for Lee.
Joey Slye-vermectin
11 hours ago
Dom Smith and JD Davis dont get you Mullins and Mancini
Mullins is coming off a 5.7 WAR season. Whatever you think of WAR Mullins is at peak value.
Brett Baty and Ronnie Mauricio would be a must for Mullins whos got 4 more years of control via arb.
JoeBrady
11 hours ago
I liked it better when Yankee fans made these offers. They were more fun to make fun of.
I think every Mets fan should start along the lines of “‘if they weren’t good enough to start for the Mets, then how much value will they have to anyone else?”
jim stem
8 hours ago
Well, since I like mature discussions, every one of the Mets home grown talent flourished under Chili Davis and slumped under the data only coaches. Mets are also signing every day players at their best positions for 3 years, thus making guys younger guys coming up to arbitration like Davis, Smith, Nimmo and McNeil replaceable.
The Mets are contenders, regardless of win loss records simply because they are at least trying to upgrade positions of need.
If Alonso doesn’t lead the league on homers his first 2 years, Smith if the starting 1b. Remember, the only reason Smith had all these negative defensive numbers is because the Mets handed him an OF glove when they had NOBODY else to play out there. (Same with Davis, btw)
Smith was one of their top prospects at 1b, it just happened that they also had a home run record setting rookie at the same position. Smith starts and produces at 1b with gold glove ability for many teams, especially those on a budget.
JD Davis was a natural 3b prospect who, if I’m not mistaken, led the minors in hitting for the Astros. They moved him after an unproductive cup of coffee because he was buried on their depth chart. He hit his way into the Mets outfield mix and then got lost with no spring training to get the necessary reps to move back to 3b. With 600 at bats, he hits .285 with 25 homers easily. He really is that good a hitter.
McNeil is either traded or produces miserably in a part time role. Mets are stuck trying to get value from Cano, who is also left handed. McNeil looked very good at times at 2b, especially considering he hadn’t played their in about 3 years. But his age, Cano, lack of adjusting to the shift, Guillorme’s presence and Lindor blocking the emergence of Ronnie Mauricio, means McNeil is moved and yes, quite a few teams will want him.
Nimmo is in the same boat as McNeil. He’s played out of position the past few years (cf), has gotten hurt and just won’t get enough at bats to raise his value. I’m 6 years he scored more than 52 runs once. But yet, everyone screams how valuable he is due to his war and obp. Big picture is that he either walks as a free agent (ala Conforto) or is moved because Canha and Marte play everyday.
Mark Vientos is a very solid 3b prospect with defensive and offensive plus tools. But like Smith with Alonso, Brett Baty is likely a stronger mlb third baseman, thus making Vientos a true trade chip.
The wild card in all this is Bryant. If the Mets sign him, McNeil, Nimmo, Smith and Davis are ALL gone in a minor league rebuild along with returning one SP and one RP.
That’s just how I see it POSSIBLY happening. Good talk. Lol
RobM
2 hours ago
@Joe Brady, what’s funny is since my return here about six months back, I don’t really see crazy trade offers from Yankee fans, at least no more than other team fans. It always seems to be fans of other teams suggesting Yankee fans are trying to package questionable players for a superstar. Those outnumber any trade proposals 30-1. Maybe that was a thing a year or two back with Frazier, but it hasn’t been since I’ve been around. (BTW The Yankees could have gotten a good return on Frazier after 2020. They should have traded him!)
mstrchef13
11 hours ago
I don’t think Mullins or Means are available in any type of deal other than one where the rest of the baseball world would react wirh “wow, the Mets really got fleeced by the O’s on that one”.
Rsox
10 hours ago
You are not getting any single one of those players in a deal centered around Dom Smith and J.D. Davis, let alone all three. Baty/Vientos, Mauricio, and likely a Pitcher or two would have to be included
jim stem
8 hours ago
@rsox
Did you miss where I included a minor league pitcher like Ginn or maybe even Peterson?
I did include prospect Vientos and also mentioned McNeil instead of Davis.
I don’t think the Mets trade Mauricio unless he refuses to learn 2b or 3b. Many scouts seem to think seem to think Mauricio’s glove might not project at SS. That’s why I think they look at him at 2b and 3b this spring. If he looks like he can handle either one, McNeil is gone.
Cosmo2
10 hours ago
You don’t put the OFr with the highest OPS on the bench.
jim stem
8 hours ago
@cosmo
He puts HIMSELF there every year, that’s why I list him as the 4th of’er. Mets need another corner OF major leaguer for WHEN Nimmo gets hurt again.
I love the kid and wish he could play 150 games a year, but he can’t. We are lucky if we get 90 from him. THAT’S why I put him on the bench. Mets have to a player better than everything they ran out there to replace him if they want to contend.
I think Khalil Lee is close. Real close. I got to watch him play last year a few times. He looked way too good to be at AAA. I think a good spring gets him on the mlb roster and pushes Nimmo.
Canha, Marte, Nimmo and Lee should be the 4 outfielders if the season started tomorrow. That really buries Smith and Davis. Probably McNeil too. Just not enough at bats to mix and match for Davis, Smith and McNeil with an active Cano clogging the LH dh at bats.
RedFraggle
9 hours ago
Who is Mullens?
tstats
9 hours ago
Did Canha disappear?
AgentF
48 mins ago
No need whatsoever for the Mets to make a deal like this. Means would be the only one that would make any sense at all… but you could still find someone of his caliber without giving up prospects available in free agency.
tjettman
11 hours ago
Well obviously Baltimore can’t add any more players until the Rangers release some.
Dumpster Divin Theo
11 hours ago
Have this image of the Orioles in their garish Orange jumpsuits laying in the weeds in some dank alley in Fort Worth waiting to see what gets emptied out of the service entrance
Dodger Dog
11 hours ago
The Dodgers>Rangers>Orioles talent pipeline
roguesaw
8 hours ago
Poopline. Pipelines flow the other way.
Dumpster Divin Theo
7 hours ago
Dodgers>Phillies>Mets>Tigers>Angels>Reds>DumpsterDivinTheo>Pirates>Rangers>NPB>SugarlandSkeeters>BridgeportBlueJays>Orioles
Dumpster Divin Theo
11 hours ago
Please please someone else comment. Know we can get to at least 10 comments on the Orioles who (checking) are a protofessional sports franchise. Please
Habeto
11 hours ago
OK, here we go then. What would you ask for Mullins (just him) in a trade with the Marlins?
Rsox
10 hours ago
Since i believe the Orioles believe last season to be an outlier for Mullins i don’t think the return would be that unreasonable. Perhaps Burdick or Conine (or any of the plethora of Outfielders in the Marlins system) and one of the young starters (Garrett, Neidert) maybe throw in someone like Holloway or Poteet as well
RedFraggle
9 hours ago
Conine isn’t a top prospect. They could just take him in the Rule 5 anyway. Plus the O’s have a crap ton of talented OF prospects.
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Maybe they’ll take Conine for Mullens
jbigz12
10 mins ago
@Rsox
That’s not even in the ballpark of what you’d give up for Mullins. Add Edward Cabrera or Max Meyer to what you just said for there to be any discussion taking place.
Dorothy_Mantooth
11 hours ago
With all of their high draft picks recently, does Baltimore have any young pitching prospects ready for the majors? It seems like we only hear about position players when it comes to the Orioles’ rebuild; they aren’t going to be remotely competitive until they get 2-3 young starters with promise on their roster. Means is a good start but he’s really a #3 pitcher on a competitive team. Seems like they have multiple years left in their rebuild unless they are keeping the lid on some premier pitching prospects.
mlb1225
10 hours ago
Grayson Rodriguez and DL Hall did well at Double-A last year. They’re both consensus top 100 prospects and will be in the majors next year. Kyle Brandish, one of the prospects they got back for Dylan Bundy, also did solid at Triple-A in 2021.
RedFraggle
9 hours ago
Bradish
Dorothy_Mantooth
8 hours ago
Thanks, gentleman. This Grayson Rodríguez kid sure looks like the real deal! I wonder if he’ll make the club out of Spring Training. Hall looks legit too, but he didn’t pitch that much in 2021 (31 total innings) so I’m guessing they’ll be careful with him as they build up his stamina.
Rsox
10 hours ago
Grayson Rodriguez, D.L. (i know, not a name you want for a Pitcher) Hall, and Kyle Bradish should all make their way to Baltimore at some point next season.
Jacob Cook
7 hours ago
Aside from the aforementioned pitchers, they’ve
also got a lot of leftovers acquired/drafted by the “highly esteemed” Dan Duquette administration.
Mike Baumann, Zac Lowther, Bruce Zimmerman, Keegan Aiken, Dean Kremer….
StudWinfield
11 hours ago
Aside from being a good dude and being the “man” in BAL, for a defensively limited bat Mancini is really, meh, for the production he provides. He’s not a star on a good team. If I’m BAL giving him a 3 or 4 year deal isn’t out of the question. Give him all the opt outs and fringe benefits he wants, his veteran presence has to worth something to the franchise.
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Put Mancini on the Cal plan? Sit around and collect empty stats while serving as a feel good ambassador? Mancinis a good egg and deserves a shot to be part of a winner. Maybe someplace else like Saint Louie or Frisco that would enjoy a vet
bobtillman
11 hours ago
The notion that a mid-market team like the O’s, who have one of the most favorable stadium leases in the business AND own their own Regional Sports Network, need a (minimum) 5- year rebuild is offensive; in fact, it’s appalling. By itself, it almost justifies the anger the MLBPA is showing this year. (And yes; you can add the Tigers to that equation. Yes, they’re getting better; it’s about flipping time).
There’s no excuse for what’s happened to a hallowed franchise (a respect they deserve) that plays in a still gorgeous stadium to sink to the level that they have. And ya, I get the MASN mess and the insane deferrals; idiocy and profit gouging are no excuse.
So what do they do now? Trade Mullins, Means et al, and hope that Adley and G-Rod are by themselves some kind of saviors? That any of the lesser prospects are going to be All-Stars? Even if that DOES happen, how many more years will it take?
MLB needs to force a sale ASAP’ I don’t care about the tax consequences to the family; none will be left with holes in their shoes. And ya, it’s the AL East; if you can’t take the heat, the kitchen door swings both ways.
RedFraggle
9 hours ago
It’s been like 2 years. Elias hired in mid November 2018. 2019 first full season. 2020 was a wash with 0 MiLB games played. 2021 was second full season. Os aren’t a mid market team either.
Dumpster Divin Theo
7 hours ago
Meh. The meager crowds that show up to do the cute little Thank God I’m a country Boy shuffle and a little old bay with their natty boes don’t seem to care. Beesides, what’s the point of stressing? Not like you’re gonna jump over the 3 of the Best clubs in baseball and the Salty Blue Jays in one fell swoop. Give it another decade or two, maybe expansion affords an opportunity to move up a place or two in the standings.
Dumpster Divin Theo
7 hours ago
Absolutely stunned, stunned(!) at the lack of said progress.
Joeypower
10 hours ago
Baltimore needs some major upgrades so they can compete with those monsters teams in that East Division.
Between Tampa,Yankees,Boston and Toronto any of those can win the division leaving Baltimore back in the cold basement.
Dumpster Divin Theo
7 hours ago
Not really that cold being the mid Atlantic, but Dundalk is a pretty dank place
jints1
9 hours ago
I think this is an important year for the Orioles. I believe they must show improvement. Too many 100 loss seasons. The fan base is restless. One way to improve is get some bullpen pitchers who can hold leads. Last year the Orioles lost too many games when they had late leads. Shoring up the bullpen could result in missing out on another 100 loss season.
Oneofthesedays
9 hours ago
Tyler Freeman, Logan Allen, Zak Plesac, Andres Gimenez, Tanner Burns for Means and Mullins
lumber and lighting
7 hours ago
This once great organization is a disgrace.Bring in CAL to bring back some stability and respect.Top to bottom rebuild,nobody is safe.Anything of value needs to go for prospects.BTW who builds a team around a catcher?Kid looks fantastic but he’s no Johnny B Bench and he has no Pete Rose in the dugout.
Dumpster Divin Theo
6 hours ago
Cal would run the organization into the ground. Like his sad sack pops and ornery little brother, not much to add, little energy to do anything that might tarnish that legacy. Better off just being a mascot for the town of Aberdeen.
stymeedone
5 hours ago
SFG built around Posey, but only pulled in 3 WS titles so, yeah, makes no sense to build around a C.
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MLB Trade RumorsBy Anthony Franco | December 27, 2021 at 10:44am CDT As expected, it has been another fairly quiet offseason in Baltimore to this point. The Orioles have made a pair of low-cost big league deals, signing infielder Rougned Odor for the league minimum salary and agreeing to terms on a $7MM guarantee with starter Jordan…

MLB Trade RumorsBy Anthony Franco | December 27, 2021 at 10:44am CDT As expected, it has been another fairly quiet offseason in Baltimore to this point. The Orioles have made a pair of low-cost big league deals, signing infielder Rougned Odor for the league minimum salary and agreeing to terms on a $7MM guarantee with starter Jordan…

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